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		<title>by: Contradictory Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.webofcontradictions.net/2006/02/28/the-red-telephone-box/#comment-150</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;#8216;londonpedant&amp;#8217;,

Thanks for the correction but exactly how would the distinction you are trying to draw have made sense to people in the 1930s? I grant you that &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Government_Act_1899&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the text of the London Government Act stated (Section 1) that &amp;#8216;[t]he whole of the administrative county of London, excluding the city of London, shall be divided into metropolitan boroughs&amp;#8217;, replacing the vestries&lt;/a&gt;. But one can see from &lt;cite&gt;The Times&lt;/cite&gt; archive that the 28 metropolitan boroughs created by the London Government Act (1899) were in fact regularly referred by journalists and politicians as &amp;#8216;London boroughs&amp;#8217; governed locally by &amp;#8216;London borough councils&amp;#8217;. For example, during the implementation of the Act, &lt;cite&gt;The Times&lt;/cite&gt; ran a series called &amp;#8216;The New London Boroughs&amp;#8217; (I: 16&amp;#160;October&amp;#160;1900, 5; II: 18&amp;#160;October&amp;#160;1900, 6; III:&amp;#160;25&amp;#160;October&amp;#160;1900, 8; IV: 31&amp;#160;October&amp;#160;1931, 5) and covered elections to &amp;#8216;The London Borough Councils&amp;#8217; (the title of an article from 23&amp;#160;October&amp;#160;1900, 8). Five decades later, an article on the rising political importance of the borough councils uses &amp;#8216;metropolitan boroughs&amp;#8217; and &amp;#8216;London boroughs&amp;#8217; interchangeably (&amp;#8216;The London Boroughs&amp;#8217;, &lt;cite&gt;The Times&lt;/cite&gt;, 31&amp;#160;October&amp;#160;1950, 5). The phrase was even included in the official title of the London Borough Councils (Women&amp;#8217;s Disabilities Removal) Bill, which aimed to allow women to become metropolitan borough councillors (&amp;#8216;In the House of Commons Yesterday&amp;#8217;, &lt;cite&gt;The Times&lt;/cite&gt;, 24&amp;#160;May&amp;#160;1900, 11). The form &lt;em&gt;the London borough of X&lt;/em&gt; was also already in use for referring to a borough council area, as with &amp;#8216;the London borough of Finsbury&amp;#8217; (W.&amp;#160;J. Jones, &amp;#8216;Illumination in the Open&amp;#8217;, &lt;cite&gt;The Times&lt;/cite&gt;, 5&amp;#160;December&amp;#160;1933), 51).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;londonpedant&#8217;,</p>
<p>Thanks for the correction but exactly how would the distinction you are trying to draw have made sense to people in the 1930s? I grant you that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Government_Act_1899" rel="nofollow">the text of the London Government Act stated (Section 1) that &#8216;[t]he whole of the administrative county of London, excluding the city of London, shall be divided into metropolitan boroughs&#8217;, replacing the vestries</a>. But one can see from <cite>The Times</cite> archive that the 28 metropolitan boroughs created by the London Government Act (1899) were in fact regularly referred by journalists and politicians as &#8216;London boroughs&#8217; governed locally by &#8216;London borough councils&#8217;. For example, during the implementation of the Act, <cite>The Times</cite> ran a series called &#8216;The New London Boroughs&#8217; (I: 16&#160;October&#160;1900, 5; II: 18&#160;October&#160;1900, 6; III:&#160;25&#160;October&#160;1900, 8; IV: 31&#160;October&#160;1931, 5) and covered elections to &#8216;The London Borough Councils&#8217; (the title of an article from 23&#160;October&#160;1900, 8). Five decades later, an article on the rising political importance of the borough councils uses &#8216;metropolitan boroughs&#8217; and &#8216;London boroughs&#8217; interchangeably (&#8216;The London Boroughs&#8217;, <cite>The Times</cite>, 31&#160;October&#160;1950, 5). The phrase was even included in the official title of the London Borough Councils (Women&#8217;s Disabilities Removal) Bill, which aimed to allow women to become metropolitan borough councillors (&#8216;In the House of Commons Yesterday&#8217;, <cite>The Times</cite>, 24&#160;May&#160;1900, 11). The form <em>the London borough of X</em> was also already in use for referring to a borough council area, as with &#8216;the London borough of Finsbury&#8217; (W.&#160;J. Jones, &#8216;Illumination in the Open&#8217;, <cite>The Times</cite>, 5&#160;December&#160;1933), 51).</p>
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		<title>by: londonpedant</title>
		<link>http://www.webofcontradictions.net/2006/02/28/the-red-telephone-box/#comment-149</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Minor correction to excellent post: there were no London Boroughs until 1965. The local units under London County Council (the LCC) were Metropolitan Boroughs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minor correction to excellent post: there were no London Boroughs until 1965. The local units under London County Council (the LCC) were Metropolitan Boroughs.
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